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[18Weapons]

i've been fishing around alot in my game library... what do you guys think the best DM game is right now?  I have stated HL2:DM is kinda not the best for me even though it is good i feel it is lacking...  what about others?  FEAR?  DOOM 3 was awful....  others?  thoughts?  am I smack talking to my self!!!

[MonkeyKungFu]

I'm still a huge fan of Farcry, though I haven't played in a while.  Quake III was great in its day.  I never really got into the UT games.  Deathmatch games in general though aren't terribly interesting to me.

[18Weapons]

sometimes you want to just plug in and frag... without waiting for rounds to end and not having to be too accurate with your ultra-realistic weapon physics... far cry is good indeed but for me it is just too similar to bf2 and cs because the gun selection...  but i should install it again really.  i never was able to get it to run very well with my old setup.  there was a time that DM games were the only games and now they're all squad based... the market does funny things...  i like these games though so i'd be interested to find what the modern 2006-2007 equivalent is to Quake... didn't they make a quake4?  did it suck?